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	<title>Comments on: Controversial is Good</title>
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		<title>By: tim heineke</title>
		<link>http://bomega.com/2007/12/27/controversial-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-9787</link>
		<dc:creator>tim heineke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>professional juggler and street philosopher. 
i like it.
keep m coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>professional juggler and street philosopher.<br />
i like it.<br />
keep m coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Molendijk</title>
		<link>http://bomega.com/2007/12/27/controversial-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-9786</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Molendijk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tyler,

While I agree that &quot;you don’t have to rift a majority (...) to fit.&quot;, I would argue that at least a significant amount of hatred is needed to counteract the love before the term &#039;controversy&#039; comes to play. And controversy is what Boris&#039; article was all about as far as I understood.

Returning to the example of Google; I personally do not consider and have never considered Google controversial, due to the simple fact that the group of naysayers was and is so small compared to the group of enthusiasts. All of this of course isn&#039;t hard science, it&#039;s just my perception of things.

At the end of the day I think we agree, which is that you need users that love you. In the process of making people love you, you suffer a high risk of provoking hatred, in which case you should not panic nor should you take pride from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tyler,</p>
<p>While I agree that &#8220;you don’t have to rift a majority (&#8230;) to fit.&#8221;, I would argue that at least a significant amount of hatred is needed to counteract the love before the term &#8216;controversy&#8217; comes to play. And controversy is what Boris&#8217; article was all about as far as I understood.</p>
<p>Returning to the example of Google; I personally do not consider and have never considered Google controversial, due to the simple fact that the group of naysayers was and is so small compared to the group of enthusiasts. All of this of course isn&#8217;t hard science, it&#8217;s just my perception of things.</p>
<p>At the end of the day I think we agree, which is that you need users that love you. In the process of making people love you, you suffer a high risk of provoking hatred, in which case you should not panic nor should you take pride from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Willis</title>
		<link>http://bomega.com/2007/12/27/controversial-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-9785</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim, 

I think Google definitely fits the &quot;garnered some hatred&quot; model. You don&#039;t have to rift a majority (like Scion for example) to fit.

I remember lots of talks about &quot;those idiots with no business plan&quot; and I still hear lots of people calling them one trick ponies. Early googlers have suffered plenty of headaches at the hands of naysayers.

My assumption is that they simply tried their best to ignore the naysayers and focus on the important thing: users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim, </p>
<p>I think Google definitely fits the &#8220;garnered some hatred&#8221; model. You don&#8217;t have to rift a majority (like Scion for example) to fit.</p>
<p>I remember lots of talks about &#8220;those idiots with no business plan&#8221; and I still hear lots of people calling them one trick ponies. Early googlers have suffered plenty of headaches at the hands of naysayers.</p>
<p>My assumption is that they simply tried their best to ignore the naysayers and focus on the important thing: users.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Molendijk</title>
		<link>http://bomega.com/2007/12/27/controversial-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-9784</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Molendijk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I get your point Boris, and I agree to some extent. It&#039;s an attractive idea because it sketches a very simplistic picture of success. And while I understand that one cannot be a writer without simplifying stuff, I think in this article you took the simplification too far.

I agree with Tyler more. It&#039;s not the hate that is relevant, it&#039;s the love. And very often the hate comes with the love, but not necessarily in significant quantity and many times only after a rather long period of time. Take Google for example. Even today, after years of huge success, there is not much hate towards Google. Controversial is definitely not a term that comes to mind when describing the company. The vast majority of people simply love Google, and the ones that don&#039;t either work at Microsoft or took Orwell too serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I get your point Boris, and I agree to some extent. It&#8217;s an attractive idea because it sketches a very simplistic picture of success. And while I understand that one cannot be a writer without simplifying stuff, I think in this article you took the simplification too far.</p>
<p>I agree with Tyler more. It&#8217;s not the hate that is relevant, it&#8217;s the love. And very often the hate comes with the love, but not necessarily in significant quantity and many times only after a rather long period of time. Take Google for example. Even today, after years of huge success, there is not much hate towards Google. Controversial is definitely not a term that comes to mind when describing the company. The vast majority of people simply love Google, and the ones that don&#8217;t either work at Microsoft or took Orwell too serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Willis</title>
		<link>http://bomega.com/2007/12/27/controversial-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-9783</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we both agree, but I&#039;d phrase the idea differently. I think it&#039;s important to know hate comes with success so that it doesn&#039;t confuse an entrepreneur when they encounter it. If no one hates it, you are likely doing something wrong. But, if everyone hates it, you&#039;re still likely doing something wrong. Hatred of your offering isn&#039;t a valuable metric of success.

The goal is to create a product that speaks so strongly to one group that they love it. With that success comes some hate, but the love you get is what&#039;s important. Focus on the love your product gets as your important metric, and just know hate is a side effect and accept that it&#039;s there and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we both agree, but I&#8217;d phrase the idea differently. I think it&#8217;s important to know hate comes with success so that it doesn&#8217;t confuse an entrepreneur when they encounter it. If no one hates it, you are likely doing something wrong. But, if everyone hates it, you&#8217;re still likely doing something wrong. Hatred of your offering isn&#8217;t a valuable metric of success.</p>
<p>The goal is to create a product that speaks so strongly to one group that they love it. With that success comes some hate, but the love you get is what&#8217;s important. Focus on the love your product gets as your important metric, and just know hate is a side effect and accept that it&#8217;s there and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gonzague: sure, go ahead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gonzague: sure, go ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzague</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gonzague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris, would you mind if I translate this into french and reblog it (giving you full credit of course)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris, would you mind if I translate this into french and reblog it (giving you full credit of course)</p>
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		<title>By: Bas van de Haterd</title>
		<link>http://bomega.com/2007/12/27/controversial-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-9780</link>
		<dc:creator>Bas van de Haterd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>only people with no opinion have no enemies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only people with no opinion have no enemies</p>
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